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Biggles Forum is costing too much

Post by von Zoyton » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:30 pm

Reall sorry but the "unlimited" hosting I thought I had seems to be limited and they want me to pay for more bandwidth. I don't know what to do now.
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Re: Biggles Forum is costing too much

Post by Fairblue » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:32 pm

What are the rates? What other options are there?
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Post by von Zoyton » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:38 pm

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Re: Biggles Forum is costing too much

Post by Fairblue » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:43 pm

What sort of costs are we talking about, VZ? Per month, per year?
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Post by kylie_koyote » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:46 pm

I am happy to chip in - please let me know how much is required and we can sort it out.
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Post by von Zoyton » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:56 pm

They are saying, I assume, in that text, the next stage up is $15 a month

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Re: Biggles Forum is costing too much

Post by Fairblue » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:56 pm

I'm happy to chip in too, but looking ahead to the future we must start looking around for alternatives to secure the forum. We might even have to ask for donations from members. I see no shame in that, as they are getting enjoyment from the forum and the cost shouldn't fall in just a few. Previously, we've very little running costs,so why can't we go and look at that again? Has hosting changed so much?
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Post by von Zoyton » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:36 pm

I think maybe my hosting was more budget hosting than I realised. :cry:

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Post by Fairblue » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:39 pm

Whatever we used before worked. Hosting wise, I mean.
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Re: Biggles Forum is costing too much

Post by Kismet » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:41 pm

I couldn't access the information in the last three links as it requires a log in and password. I've googled dreamhost, though, and read what I can there without actually clicking the Build button.

One thing that strikes me is, have the memory limits been reached as we have been very busy transferring all the old stuff across, making the forum much, much busier than usual or is it an on-going thing?
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Post by von Zoyton » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:49 pm

That is true, the transfer would have used a lot of memory. Maybe things will calm down soon.

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Post by Fairblue » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:03 pm

So we keep an eye on it?
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Re: Biggles Forum is costing too much

Post by Spitfire666 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:11 pm

If this is true we can calm it down by just not posting so much! I know that when people are in the mood it is not easy to stop, but we need to just think what posts should go next. We have plenty of time so no need to do it all now.

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Post by kylie_koyote » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:25 pm

Now that we're basically done copying things over from the forum, it won't be 20K+ posts a month.
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Post by Fairblue » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:28 pm

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Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:11 pm
If this is true we can calm it down by just not posting so much! I know that when people are in the mood it is not easy to stop, but we need to just think what posts should go next. We have plenty of time so no need to do it all now.
Kismet and I worked flat out over a number of weeks to transfer what we did, but things have naturally slowed down now, and I doubt if we will run out of bandwidth again because the majority of posts which we considered vital have been carried over already. There is a need, I think, to get as much transferred over as soon as possible, because there is a strong possibility things might get overlooked or forgotten if it's left too long. I don't know about Kismet but my time to copy stuff over is limited so I tend to do as much as I can in the time I have available. We're talking about odds and ends now so I don't think we need to restrict ourselves. We're not going to get that great volume of traffic in such a short time again.
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Post by Kismet » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:51 pm

There's very little left on my transfer list. I felt that it was important to get everything across as quickly as possible because it was confusing for people to see old posts and new mixed together and the sooner we had it all done, the better. Like Fairblue, I also have other things to do with my time and I didn't want the spectre of untransferred topics hanging over me as I did these other things. If I had known in advance it would cause problems, I could have planned my work load differently, but I didn't and it's all hypothetical now, really.
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Post by von Zoyton » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:10 pm

My wife is on the hosting too and her warnings were 100 compared to our 1723. Let's see if it calms down. $15 a month is too much.

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Post by SopwithCamel » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:24 pm

Were you running some ads before, VZ? I saw a couple a few days ago. Maybe we can figure out something ad wise and see how that works out as it might be a better long term solution compared to donations.

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Post by von Zoyton » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:16 pm

Clicks on ads are fairly pathetic these days, it's a tiny trickle, especially on a forum that doesn't have a high visitor rate.

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Post by Spitfire666 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:12 am

Would it help if we clicked on these ads. ourselves? Many of them seem to be things I have looked at our are interested in, although not wanting to buy.

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Post by von Zoyton » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:27 am

No, that would be against Googles terms, to falsely produce clicks. If you were interested then it's different. But they say quite clearly to encourage clicks for the perpose of profit is wrong use of it.

We'll just have to see if the forum will calm down now.

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Post by Frecks » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:16 am

I would be happy to contribute to the running costs of the Forum if I could send a cheque to one of the mods. I do not do internet banking.

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Post by Fairblue » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:16 am

That's very kind of you, Frecks. We'll bear that in mind when we've an idea which way we need to go.
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Post by SopwithCamel » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:14 pm

von Zoyton wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:27 am
No, that would be against Googles terms, to falsely produce clicks. If you were interested then it's different. But they say quite clearly to encourage clicks for the perpose of profit is wrong use of it.
I think it means that you can't specifically say on the site to click on the ads, but if we have a mutual understanding I think it might be different.

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Post by Kismet » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:11 pm

Frecks wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:16 am
I would be happy to contribute to the running costs of the Forum if I could send a cheque to one of the mods. I do not do internet banking.
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Ditto. You could set up a PayPal account to run its, which would be the easiest way to do international payments. 20 members paying $10 pa would cover the $15/month, but then the number of postings will fall now the old forum is transferred across
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