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by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:17 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
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Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

Postby Jennifer » 20 Sep 2013, 12:01

Well I did not know that! I thought the magazine stories were only the WW1 books and Black Peril. Rescue Flight of course was written later was that in a magazine as well?
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:17 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
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Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

Postby SaintedAunt » 20 Sep 2013, 11:52 OzBiggles1963 wrote: Roger Harris's amazing website about the Popular Flying magazine issues states that the last Biggles story to be published in Popular Flying was May 1934, so up to this point they were correctly 'chronological' & unedited as the author ori...
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:16 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
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Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

by Jennifer » 20 Sep 2013, 11:49 So does that mean the stories right up to 1934 were all for adults? Black Peril was first published in 1935 and that was very much for older boys rather than adults but that was published in a comic before it was made into a book. Was Flies East in one of the magazin...
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:16 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

by OzBiggles1963 » 20 Sep 2013, 11:39 ....When he switched writing from Popular Flying to Modern Boy, i.e. from adult to children, the style of stories was bound to change a bit to be suitable for children in the 1930s. If you compare Popular Flying versions with Modern Boy and later book versions o...
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:16 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

by SaintedAunt » 20 Sep 2013, 10:21 Just to say... I don't think Wikipedia is a good source; I don't think there would be security issues well into the 1930s; I do think that WEJ wrote a small number of stories in Popular Flying in some sort of chronological order but not, at the time, thinking he'd...
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:16 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

by Jennifer » 20 Sep 2013, 08:41 I think we can forgive WEJ for the differences in the WW1 books because they were written and re-written and then editors and publishers got in on the act and everything has got very confused but I cannot forgive him for the Fails to Return and Takes Charge discrepan...
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:16 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

by Jennifer » 19 Sep 2013, 08:36

At least we can be sure The Last Show was in November 1918 ;) :lol:
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:16 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

by Jennifer » 19 Sep 2013, 08:36

At least we can be sure The Last Show was in November 1918 ;) :lol:
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:15 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
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Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

Postby Lycaea » 18 Sep 2013, 13:55 Biggles' WWI adventures according to Anders Lybeck: Biggles Learns to fly late September 1916 Biggles’ First Flight late Sept 1916 Biggles the scout Nov 1916 Crashed Flyers January 1917 (first sight of Albatross D-III) The pilot who lost his way winter 1917 The Lau...
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:15 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

by Lycaea » 18 Sep 2013, 13:53 SopwithCamel wrote: Yes, I think on the old forum Lycaea mentioned a timeline complied by someone...perhaps she could post that again? :please: Service with a smile, that's my middle name! (When I happen to be around, that is...) For those of you that don't remember, t...
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:15 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

by CaptWilks » 18 Sep 2013, 07:36 Spitfire666 wrote: My guess is that by the time he wrote the stories, mid 1930s, he remembered the aeroplanes but had forgotten when they actually reached any particular combat areas back in the 1914-1918 era :!: The actual experiences were clear in his mind, howeve...
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:15 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

Postby Spitfire666 » 18 Sep 2013, 07:09 jandh11 wrote: One thing to remember, in his defence, is that he only actually flew on the Western Front in the last months of the war. He flew DH9s but would have seen anything from Fok DVIIs to Albatros to DR1s, Camels, SE5s, Bristols, you name it he probabl...
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:14 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
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Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

y Sizzling Sausages » 17 Sep 2013, 23:37

Very impressive, Dr Biggles! I think though that you hit the nail on the head with your final paragraph - enjoy the stories without feeling the need to tear your hair out over them. :D
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:14 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

by CaptWilks » 17 Sep 2013, 23:06 This is where it gets speculative. Dr Biggles has reversed the order of "The dragon's lair" and "The great arena" in BOTCS because there is a suggestion in the latter that the Professor is shot down and killed. But Biggles muses ". . . perhaps he only had to force-l...
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:14 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

by CaptWilks » 17 Sep 2013, 22:15 Great fun and great work Dr Biggles! My order is similar but has some of differences (I'll post it when I can). First, I only have the stories in the books and don't have Air Ace. Second, I'm taking into account Johns' notoriously suspect continuity. So when Raymond...
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:14 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

by Jennifer » 17 Sep 2013, 14:36

I don't think they ever did. I suppose readers in the 1930s were not that bothered and then young boys would not have looked into everything so closely as we do now. The publishers seem to have made the most stupid alterations and left the mistakes in.
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:13 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

by Anthony Appleyard » 17 Sep 2013, 14:22 I wonder how many of WEJ's readers down the years wrote to him, or to magazine editors, or to book publishers "please forward", about serious inconsistencies, and how often he tried to clear up those inconsistencies when rewiting a story. How much attitude w...
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:13 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

by James » 17 Sep 2013, 13:58

That's a great job Dr Biggles. Fascinating read. You could just assume Major Raymond and Colonel Raymond are different people, hence the different ranks and meeting 'them/him' twice :D
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:13 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

by OzBiggles1963 » 17 Sep 2013, 13:24 Wow, great job Dr. Biggles & very interesting to read....& it is a pity, amongst the other things that don't quite match, that WEJ kept altering Raymond's rank [did have me wondering when I was a kid]. It wasn't until a few years ago that I managed to get Norman...
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:13 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

by Jennifer » 17 Sep 2013, 12:50 Yes that is very true. I think the problem with Algy is that WEJ did not intend to write anything else about Biggles after the First World War and certainly when he introduced Algy he did not intend to write about him for the next thirty years or so. I expect he just...
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:04 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

by DrBiggles » 17 Sep 2013, 12:46 Here is the work I have done on this http://www.biggles.info/Order/ I wasn't intending to publish it but it may help everyone with clues as to when stories are set etc. I am not convinced my "suggested order" of the 65 World War One stories is right. What I need to ...
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:04 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

by jandh11 » 17 Sep 2013, 12:42 One thing to remember, in his defence, is that he only actually flew on the Western Front in the last months of the war. He flew DH9s but would have seen anything from Fok DVIIs to Albatros to DR1s, Camels, SE5s, Bristols, you name it he probably saw it. I suppose it'...
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:03 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

Postby Jennifer » 17 Sep 2013, 12:25 Right my head hurts even more now :? I am very surprised that WEJ has made so many "mistakes" or written the stories in such a careless manner when he was actually in WW1. He must have been more aware of the aircraft or if not there must have been many people he ...
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:03 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

Postby jandh11 » 17 Sep 2013, 12:09 CaptWilks wrote: My view is that, with a few notable exceptions (e. g. replacement of Pups with Camels in Learns to Fly), I focus on the characters and not the aircraft. I think there is no way around the fact that if you want to establish a reading order, you hav...
by Fairblue
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:03 pm
Forum: General Discussions about Biggles and Co
Topic: Biggles Stories Time-line
Replies: 49
Views: 159

Re: Biggles Stories Time-line

by OzBiggles1963 » 17 Sep 2013, 09:47 CaptWilks wrote: .....The implication in "The Boob" is that Algy is younger than Biggles. Biggles refers to him as the "little horror"; not the way you would normally describe an older cousin. We also know, from his first appearance, Algy was fearless to the poi...